University of Montana Vice President Jim Foley was so upset that an alleged rape victim spoke publicly about UM’s handling of her case that he asked whether action could be taken against her under the Student Code of Conduct.

“Is it not a violation of the student code of conduct for the woman to be publicly talking about the process and providing details about the conclusion?” Foley emailed then-Dean of Students Charles Couture in March. “Help me understand please.”

The Missoulian obtained the email and others in a joint Freedom of Information Act request with the Wall Street Journal. Couture’s response to Foley was not included in the emails released to the newspapers.

Earlier this month, the U.S. Department of Justice announced that the university and its campus police, as well as the Missoula Police Department and the Missoula County Attorney’s Office, are the subjects of a first-of-its-kind investigation into how they handle sexual assault allegations.

The emails show university administrators struggling to contain a scandal that grew inexorably from UM’s announcement in mid-December that it had hired an outside investigator to look into reports that two female students had been gang-raped by several male students in separate incidents.

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The very use of the term gang rape by several media outlets – the university always has described alleged assaults involving one female and several male students as “date rapes” – set off a testy email exchange initiated by Foley to Couture, UM legal counsel David Aronofsky, and Lucy France, UM’s director of equal opportunity and affirmative action.

“Can anybody tell me where UM has used the terms gang rape and football players in any public document that the Missoulian would be referencing? Thanks,” Foley wrote.

In the only response included in the FOIA information, Couture emailed that he used the term when he accused four UM football players and an accomplice of gang-raping a woman “because that is what it was.” And he added, “Jim, as you know, I never spoke to any media person.”

Couture, who retired at the end of spring semester, consistently refused to comment on the cases.

Even after that response, though, Foley persisted, “Thanks – so is it in any public document that the Missoulian has access to?”

“Not to my knowledge,” Couture replied.

*****

Among other reactions in emails written to and by Foley were:

  • A demand for an apology from a Missoula police officer who wrote – as a private citizen, on his personal email account – an impassioned email to UM President Royce Engstrom and others, asking them to “stop this spiraling PR mess and take action instead of trying to defend your actions.” (See related story.)
  • A decision to delay releasing UM’s final report on the sexual allegations for fear it would coincide with a scheduled hearing on a restraining order filed against Grizzlies quarterback Jordan Johnson, accusing him of sexual assault. “I would prefer to not send this out on that day for the same news cycle the following day,” Foley wrote.
  • When someone emailed Engstrom from the address “ForSoundFacts” likening the situation at UM to last year’s sexual abuse scandal at Penn State, Engstrom forwarded the email to Foley. “The irony in his email address is overwhelming,” Engstrom wrote, adding that he wouldn’t respond because he saw no way to win the argument.

ForSoundFacts wrote: “Contrary to your claim that the University of Montana responded to student rape allegations in a timely manner, it’s apparent that you and university officials were remiss in the prompt handling of those serious allegations. I see no difference in how the University of Montana and the recent Penn State crimes were addressed. Simply, to protect the reputation of the university rather than the victims of crime.”

  • A rejection by Engstrom of a suggestion that his President’s Perspective column in the Montanan magazine address the issue of sexual assaults involving students. “I don’t think I want to write about it in the Montanan,” Engstrom replied, and Foley added:

“I would suggest … we should not be sending out challenging info to 96,000 folks, many of whom may not even be aware of what has gone on the last three months. This magazine should generally be used to highlight all the good things going on around UM and its alumni.”

  • A suggestion from Engstrom that UM’s original announcement in mid-December that it was investigating allegations of “date rape” on campus begin with a report by StateUniversities.com that UM’s Missoula campus was rated the safest in the state. (Nationally, it ranked 240 out of 450 on the list.)

Foley forwarded Engstrom’s message to UM senior news editor Cary Shimek, who replied: “I inserted the information Royce recommended at the end in this version. I don’t think it works in the lede.”

  • Likewise, in an email exchange about an issue of Transcripts, the online newsletter of the Grizzly Parents Association, registrar Edwin Johnson wrote: “There was a very brief discussion regarding whether there would be value in crafting a message to parents who receive this email publication assuring them that, despite the bad press, we are doing everything we can to protect their daughters/sons.”

Lucy France replied that “I seem to recall that it was ultimately decided not to include anything in this next publication.”

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The emails also contain many references to UM’s attempts to schedule training and educational programs for administrators, faculty, staff and students on sexual assault issues. They show that, despite some initial trepidation about the $14,000 fee, the university brought in the national Men Can Stop Rape group for campus forums.

And there’s discussion of the American Council on Education Sexual Assault webinar in January. The webinar, titled “Sexual Assault and Crime on Campus: What Higher Education Leaders Need to Know,” was sponsored by the National Association of College and University Attorneys.

UM Legal Counsel David Aronofsky urged a number of UM administrators to attend, and Engstrom added that he thought deans and directors should attend, too.

Aronofsky replied that the scheduled room could fit about two dozen people, but added, “My guess is even with deans we’ll be lucky to get that many.”

Engstrom himself was unable to attend, but his assistant, Rebecca Power, was designated to go in his place.

On the day of the seminar, she emailed Aronofksy: “I’m sorry that I missed this. The day was too crazy for me to get away.”

The Missoulian tried to contact university officials for comment on this story. Engstrom is in Australia until Tuesday and Foley’s voicemail box was full. He did not respond to request for comment via text or emails to his work and personal accounts.

Reporter Gwen Florio can be reached at 523-5268, gwen.florio@missoulian.com or @CopsAndCourts on Twitter.

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(67) comments

platinumrule

Has anyone heard the saying, "There are two sides to every story"? At this time it's all speculation.

trad man

I AM WITH TROOPERS WIFE all players on all Uof M teams should have to sign forms stating they have no prior convictions (since they are erased a lot of times) and a pledge of conduct, if they break any or lie they are kicked out, have to pay with interest any money etc. they have recieved, pay back where ever they are in education expenses the U has paid, etc.. this should include no drinking/party stuff, if they can't agree we don't need them. As far as attacks about racist , it is pretty funny to call troopers wife that but look at all the blogs by this griz fan/aka pres or vic pres, or who ever they are obviously worried about their job and I hope all higher ups and anyone involved in this cover up top down are fired pronto, and the team , what is left after the pledges is rebuilt or eliminated all together, the U is about education, not state rape center

MissZooLa

Aren't ALL students of the University of Montana expected to abide by the Student Code of Conduct ? And wouldn't a 'victim' fall under the umbrella of ALL students? While I'd be curious to know which section of the S.C.C. the alleged victim might have violated according to Foley, I don't believe it was wrong of him to simply ASK the question. The headline to this article is misleading. Might as well have been: UM HATES RAPE VICTIMS. It says so in THIS email (Kind of, anyway)!

castigate

Rosa makes a heart-felt response. Her assertion that "the only way to.....", however, is dead wrong. Engstrom and Foley, dear Rosa, have deftly played the cover-up game and it is sad that you are in a position of employment such that you must qualify your comments to protect your job. This is a gambit based on: 1) Money 2) Power. Women are the commodity. Engstrom and Foley clearly missed their chance on the "honest boat" and now must sink with this misogynist ship called "Go Griz".

Rosa

As a faculty member who has been concerned about sexual assault and harassment by, among others, members of the athletic teams and departments, I will tell you that this is not a new problem. The difference is that we finally have a president who is willing to do something about it. He inherited a very bad situation, and is working at fixing it. Please don't blame him. I personally brought the problem to the attention of the former president and AD a few years back, and they pooh-poohed it.

I will also tell you that this problem is not limited to the University of Montana; it is endemic in our society because the gendered and sexualized relations of power that lead to sexual exploitation, harassment, and assault are endemic in our society. Members of certain sports are more likely to engage in it because their sports idealize a certain form of masculinity.

The only way to stop it is to work on changing the culture. In the short term, that means the sort of education programs the administration is putting in place. In the long term, it means changing some very deeply held understandings of what it means to be a man or to be a woman in this society, along with the social, economic, and political relations that sustain them.

WishingWell

Well said! Thanks!

castigate

The really weird thing is that Foley and his boss landed on "the streaker" with both feet....as if this somewhat chubby naked man had insulted the very image of UM. I say: Make The Streaker the new president of UM.

BobbyLee
BobbyLee

"I got into public service because it was, and still is, an honorable profession. I have always seen public service and politics as a profession that makes this fragile and animated system live. I came to public service because it was fun and stayed because it was a duty and a responsibility and a chance to do good." - Foley, from the Kaimen.

I wonder if he would have gotten into public service, and stayed, had it been a $10/hour kitchen job, or a $13/hour no bennies firefighter job. No, Foley got into it, and stayed, for the same reason as was recently bragged by Lucy France in 'sensitivity class training': "I have great job security because universities are mandated to have someone like me in this position." Both jobs pay exceedingly well and provide benefits for life - but according to Foley that has absolutely nothing to do with either of them getting into 'public service.' BS.

And for all this high paid brilliance, France twice put on sensitivity training in less than two months because two people in one department did something stupid enough to warrant everyone in the department taking part in it. One of those people had already left the department and, as all too frequently happens in 'public service', was moved laterally to another department - where they could be equally brilliant, no doubt.. The other had left the university months before. One wonders at the managerial logic of holding everyone accountable for two people's failings who are no longer there. One also wonders, that if sensitivity training is really required for all these people, is the university hiring the right people?

During one of these clases, a manager asked France what they should do if a student came to them in confidence to report harassment. She said she didn't know. The Head of Affirmative Action, and someone tasked with instructing sensitivity, didn't know.

And they get into public service because it's their duty? Give me a break. The military is duty. Police, fire and nursing is duty. A highly-paid university administrator is not bleeding duty.

mama mo

I can't help thinking that if the old boys club that is the UM Executive Officers had a few women in it, this whole thing would have been handled differently.

hard headed
hard headed

I thought much more of your online paper before you crapped all over it this morning, Missoulain. I so enjoy passing these editorial all over the USA, I got a kick out of "Rape Capital of the World" remark. I post on 20 different papers around the country and if people didn't know about UM before they do now! You block my comments, however you let tobybush post sexual innuendos online, but that's ok cause everyone reading will know you are also a business who favors rape at the university...

Alan Johnson

The Missoulian is either "a business who favors rape at the university," or on a vendetta to destroy the university and/or Grizzly football. Hard Headed and Grizfan2003, are you sure you aren't the same person?

hard headed
hard headed

I thought much more of your online paper before you crapped all over it this morning, Missoulain. I so enjoy passing these editorial all over the USA, I got a kick out of "Rape Capital of the World" remark. I post on 20 different papers around the country and if people didn't know about UM before they do now! You block my comments, however you let tobybush post sexual innuendos online, but that's ok cause everyone reading will know you are also a business who favors rape at the university...

hard headed
hard headed

Walter, they can say anything they want about us, but if you notice we are the only 2 with avatars, at least we are not technologically deficient as other may be.

pf1979

ROFLMMFAO! Did you take CSIII to learn how to avatar?

hard headed
hard headed

tobybush has no ability other than picking on others with rude and crude remarks and if you go to his remarks you will see someone who repeats the same sentence over and over and over again. No, I won't lower myself down to tobybush's level with the innuendos such as his. I do feel sorry for toby over his remark about Penn St. makes me wonder if toby was abused by grown men as boy, toby there is help and don't be afraid to seek it.

smallfishbigpond
smallfishbigpond

Seriously? Hellgatenights: "The "Prestige of the UofM is gone? A small liberal arts college for people that need a degree to go into the parasite sector?"

I doubt very seriously that the true students that attend University of Montana care any bit about the "football team" or the GrizNation. They're attending for a variety of reasons,.. personal growth, future careers in education, law, forestry, journalism (yes journalism) science, as well as a wide field of liberal arts options It's limitless. I am proud of my degrees. Do I care one bit about the Football Team, players and the mucky muck garbage that has infiltrated the administration and sports programs? No. Not one bit. U of M is still a quality "small liberal arts college" in spite of the crazed local fanatics who can't seem to get past High School and their macho football mentality, greedy city and athletic department leaders that have taken over and ruined it as a educational institution with their greed, good ol boy networks, and "look the other way" attitude towards women. In spite of it all, it is a EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION and there are faculty and staff that know what their role is - and it's not to wear maroon and silver every freekin day and attend every game or risk losing your job. Hey... It's all going down boys.. all of it. NCAA sanctions are next. Goodbye Griz season!

chalk

Amen, SFBP - The role of UM is education - athletics are important, but not the primary mission. What is the ROI for athletics versus the number of athletes that "go to the pros?" Research is important, but the powers that be also need to make sure that despite the big $$, that research activities don't draw away from the primary mission to educate. The argument that research brings funds to UM is great until the funding dries up or decreases - then you have empty expensive labs and idle PhD's. Good old fashioned education has a guaranteed return - thankfully, education is the primary mission of UM.

2003grizfan
2003grizfan

I am supporting my university and waiting for the truth to come out. I am not jumping to judgement before there has been a full accounting of what happened, what policies have been put in place to fix jurisdictional issues and ultimately if charges are filed against the accused. An allegation is just that, an allegation. Everyone here is rushing to condemn everyone before there have even been charges filed, must less a verdict or a plea deal.

I am sick of the Missoulian publishing rumors and one-sided stories. Even if the stories are correct, the headlines are misleading. Now whether this is deliberate or just incompetence remains to be seen.

Foley was clearly asking his pears for guidance and their opinion. Nowhere did he say "this person needs to be punished" or anything like that. You are all reading into this what you want because you are so thirsty for blood.

mama mo

The question is not one of guilt or innocence. Foley tried to shut up the VICTIM, and to keep her from talking about what happened to her. You may justify it by arguing that he was "only asking a question" but his intention was to shut her up. This is a new low for the executive officers. Foley needs to lose his job for this. For whatever the reasons O'Day and Pflugrad lost theirs, I doubt they were trying to blame or quiet an alleged victim of rape. As an alum, I am embarrassed by Foley's actions. This is not the reputation I want associated with my university.

Pistol

The DOJ was brought in by someone with a lot of political clout. Only two people might have that much clout Pat Williams or Jim Foley. Foley was Senator's Baucus chief of staff, and could have the contacts necessary.Why he might have figured an investigation would absolve the University. My bet is both the sheriff and police chief have followed proper procedures. This whole mess will end up on Engstrom's lap. He tried to use ODay and Pflugrad as the scape goats. What a leader? He sits in Australia while all of this goes on. He had to know this story was coming out, and if he didn't he should have. One question I have is this, Why when a football player is alleged to commit a crime their name is in the paper, but a foreign exchange student's isn't? No one's names should be in the paper until actual charges are made.

Jerry Attrich

As a UM alum (1966), I'm ashamed of the University's attempt to cover up and keep a lid on this scandal. In my opinion, Foley has demonstrated moral unfitness for the job and should be fired ASAP.

And 2003Grizfan, you should look deep within your own moral code as to why you are seeking to excuse these clowns. "Only asking a question"?? Get real! He was obviously trying to punish / muzzle the victim. And guilt or innocence is a separate issue from covering up the accusations.

chalk

Jerry - Thank you. It is time for more alumni to speak up.

Education is a privilege and an endeavor that changes lives. Students need to be safe when undertaking their course work and need to know that administration is there to assist them with their goals. Student athletes also need to know that participating in college athletics is a privilege; however, their first goal should be to obtain an education. They are not above the rules that apply to all students and the law that applies to all citizens and that their behavior should be treated no differently.
If any alumni are considering not making their usual contribution, rather than drop support all together, please consider designating your funds to the department of your choice.

One ugly side of the university has been exposed. These stories will not be resolved quickly or without more turmoil. It is frustrating to know that our degrees now have the smudge of cover up, out-of-line athletes, and administrators more concerned with how things will look than with focusing on students. Perhaps this is the perfect opportunity for UM to focus on educating Montanans.
***
Keep up the good work, Gwen!

2003grizfan
2003grizfan

Just donated to UM earlier than normal. All alums need to do the same to counter these attacks.

SomeDudeFromIdaho

Dude face it, your school must suck big time if your local newspaper hates on it this much. If girls were getting raped off the chain like this at my school, I would find a new school to support, I mean who would want to support a school that allows grizzly bears to roam the campus and rape girls. Crazy what goes on in that state

Alan Johnson

Go boil a potato!

startingover

Isn't Idaho known as the land of white supremacists? Crazy what goes on in that state!

platinumrule

Really? Why don't you tend to the problems in your crappy state?!

naps

I would also like to thank Gwen for her reporting. She is doing a great job.

2003grizfan
2003grizfan

Hardly. Her stories are full of provable factual omissions. Her headlines contradict her own story and are even more incorrect. Rather than waiting for a response from the other side, she reports one-sided and partial information. She is about the worst reporter I have ever seen.

Alan Johnson

Reporters don't write headlines

castigate

exactly. The Missoulian headlines are written by the guy crunching the line lengths. BUT, Ms. Florio positively persecuted, exploited, crucified and had a great number of laughs at the expense of mmj-addicted, psychologically-disturbed Jason Christ for over a year and none of you "don't name our accused griz guys" said a word. I say, "Ms. Florio: take the journalistic vacation you took when writing about Jason Christ and unleash it full-force on Griz Nation."

startingover

Seriously? Reporters don't write headlines? So they only report unbiased, totally objective information on issues affecting our society? No self interest involved at all, no concern about selling papers, or increasing advertising sales, or perhaps attempting to sway public opinion on key issues. No that never happens.

Alan Johnson

Truth hurts. And you aren't the only grizfan here. I've been cheering them on since the 1950s.

2003grizfan
2003grizfan

Why do you assume the people making the allegations are telling the truth? Aren't they alleged victims at this point? I guess people are guilty until proven guilty in this day and age.

The problem here when you boil down to it had to do with different organizations having different rules and standards when it comes down to jurisdiction. To believe any of this was deliberate is to deny the facts. The university has been proactive for months but the bias here is stunning.

tobybush

You sound like a Penn State Fan

BriceMissoula

The people accused of the sexual assault crimes are innocent until proven guilty. That I affirm with a steady hand. My observations go to the behavior of those responsible for investigating the crimes and supporting the victims. Your observation about jurisdictional issues is correct and points out a current problem. The problem is that the University of Montana, a reputed educational institution, has decided that it has the jurisdiction even in matters of felony, if they occuried on campus or were committed by UM students or staff. Such an presumption is very dangerous. AT UM, Penn State and and the Catholic Church, the institution did not immediately contact the legal athorities and provide unbridled access to information. Felony matters, rape, murder, theft, etc. should not be investigated by UM campus security or members of the UM administration, they should be handled by the trained people at the police, sherrif or County Attorney's office. This is true because the actions of those doing the investigation may provide a technical defense should a case go to trial. The Missoulian article containing the emails obtained through the Freedom of Information Act clearly show that certain players, surely Mr. Foley and Mr. O'Day, deliberately acted either to hide facts or to time them to their benefit. These are not evil people, but people who have lost the institutional vision encapsulated in the motto "Lux et Veritas," "Light and Truth. Though the university has been proactive for months, too much of the energy has been spent "controlling the message," and not in opening all records, conversations and offices to legal investigation. It is not the responsibility of UM to control the message, but to light the truth. We are all guilty of some lapse of judgement and/or behavior. It is our actions following that behavior that sets the tone for our future actions.

hard headed
hard headed

While riding my bike I received 3 different tickets in the a.m. hours when no traffic was out, why? Riding my bike to far from the curb, riding with one hand, and no helmet. These tickets took the food off my table and months ago before this story broke I posted every thing I could find about the situation to every major new paper in the country including 25 different Senators and President Obama. I thought it was time the police dealt with real crime instead of starving me.

platinumrule

I don't have an avatar but I did see the movie. I'm glad you were ticketed. The cop did his/her job. Your just mad because you chose to break the law and got caught. Unless you are a part of any of the organizations investigating the alleged rape you really don't know if or what they are doing now do you?

BriceMissoula

Grizfan2003, one would have to have real problems to be rejected for enrollment by UM. As for your assertion that there was or is no "cover-up," let's simply say there is a significant lack of transparency regarding the actions of some individuals attending or working at the University of Montana relating to the instances of sexual assaults committed on or performed by members of UM, some being committed by UM athletes. Especially in the case of sexual assault, a public institution of higher education ought to be aggressive in bringing wrong doers to account and in supporting the victims of these crimes. UM has done neither. These faliures are symptomatic of a larger failure to understand and support the institutional mission as a leader and role model to the larger community. Such failures, whether they be at Penn State , the UM, or in the Catholic Church, should call forth reviews and reforms that punish the criminals, support the victims and set an institutional course that returns to the highest ideals. We should also understand the such failures are probably not restricted to happenings related to sexual assaults, but given the lack of ethical and moral leadership, are probably also happening in other dealings, including financial and educational. A generous soul can assume that President Engstrom, being new to the position, had little knowledge and understanding of his subordinates' leadership qualities, however, his embracing of Mr. Foley's world view and approach can only be described as unfortunate and shows a lack of personal discernment and strength.

mama mo

Amen. I believe the problem is systemic, top down. One could argue that Foley has more power than Engstrom due to his connections and tenure. They have both tried to supress the information, punish the victims, and divert the blame from themselves. They need to GO!

platinumrule

Unfortunately it's all about politics and money.

2003grizfan
2003grizfan

Now people are saying people are out to get them, to "off them." Shows all you haters are truly nuts.

2003grizfan
2003grizfan

I love how people are throwing out rumors and suspicions without proof or direct knowledge of anything. One has to wonder how many of the people posting here were rejected from UM, went to MSU or have some type of grudge. And what f-ing coverup? Given the coverage, you think this was a coverup? Idiots.

pf1979

UM rejects people?

SomeDudeFromIdaho

Just looked it up, they pretty much accept everyone, even I would be accepted, hmm. This school must suck worse than what I previously assumed.

Wrongfully Evicted
Wrongfully Evicted

The problem is at the Police Department and City/County Attorney's office. They are involved with the conspiracy. I can build a website on that kind of data. I already have so it's never forgotten or erased if they finally kill me. They certainly been trying. If Gary H thinks I am paying any fine he has another think coming. That will never happen.I reported a crime, the city attorney's office buried it.

Edited by staff.

platinumrule

Really? Do you have aluminum foil on your windows?

BriceMissoula

Mr. Jim Foley has been and is fundamental to the UM's culture of secrecy and retribution. Believing his job to be information gatekeeper, he has muffled the campus. Believing his job is to produce revenue for the athletic program, he and Learfield Properties has prostituted UM's image. His atttitude and actions have empowered the ethically and morally weaker individuals to make decisions and take actions that they would not, if a strong ethical role model were in place. Though the sexual assault cover-up is the most eggregious, a close investigation would find many times when formal and legal process and procedures were ignored to accomplish his main purposes, the total commercialization of the Montana Grizzlies and UM public image protection. He did not cover-up the rapes to protect the victims or the perpetrators, but to protect advertising and royalty revenues. He and Learfiled Properties, the owner of UM's marketing rights, have only one goal, increase their bottom line. Both have done enormous damage to the real mission of the campus, quality education and ethical modeling.

Buzz Feedback
Buzz Feedback

Royce should just stay in AUS. Dingo ate my u-prez, etc.etc.

2003grizfan
2003grizfan

The Missoulian's new comment section is censoring comments. Rather, the paper is censoring comments supporting UM and critical of the paper's coverage. How am I not surprised.

tobybush

After reading all these stories seems if you want your daughter raped and have no one do anything about it. UM , is the place to go what a proud tradition to have for a school.

platinumrule

UM isn't the only college or university with this problem.

Alan Johnson

Hmmm, it seems they published YOUR comment, even though there's not an once of truth in it.

ds

Dennison created the position and then hired Foley to fill it. I don't remember if there was a national search.

MontanaNative1ed7

Interesting.

mama mo

There was no search. Foley was given the job without a formal process.

2003grizfan
2003grizfan

All the man did was ask a question. He was looking for guidance and a misleading headline and a biased story have painted it as something it is not.

Troopers wife's racist tones speak volumes. There are 120 players on the football team. The ALLEGED actions of 4 of them should not tarnish the other 116 who have done nothing wrong.

Glad to see even with the revamp, Walter is still crazy. Try reading the story. There was no attempt to punish anyone. He was simply asking of by going to the press so early in the investigation, the person violated the code of conduct. Asking a question shouldn't be a crime.

And let's not forget, these emails were from late last year and early this year, months before changes were made.

troopers_wife

What, do tell, is racist about my comment? I don't watch football, don't know anything about the team other than they are male. If, and it would be a big leap, you are implying the word "thug" is racist, look the word up in the dictionary. To my knowledge, which admittedly includes 9 years post high school, there is NO cultural or ethnic connotation to the term thug. so, do enlighten those of us too feeble minded to grasp what is racist about the word thug?

hellgatenights

Tch Tch......where will engstrom, engen, foley and couture get a job now that their facade has come down?

Have you ever wondered what these public parasites really do to get the high salaries they get? Me too.

Answer is: The work the system well..........they keep things cozy with the student loan people, recruit from anywhere they can and suck all the grant monies they can get. That's what they do.

So if they seem far removed from the concern, safety and education of the students, now you understand why.........they are far removed.

What's to come?

Answer: These morons will all get jobs in the federal government.....their done here.
School enrollment will decline, and continue to decline for years. The prestige of the UofM is gone, and we see it for what it is.......a small liberal arts college for people that need a degree to go into the parasite sector.

platinumrule

Thanks. I have a BA from UM. I am self-employed with 2 home based business. I also reopened a small cafe in my community so my neighbors would have a place to go to socialize and a some of the employees could remain employed. Is that parasitic? You must have a different dictionary than the 4 I have at my house. As far as "these morons" getting jobs in the federal government, it was a professor at UM who said to me years ago, "As long as Americans have beer and t.v. the government can do whatever it wants." What are you doing to be proactive in making things better?

Gman

We now have our answer as to why the boys were sent down the road but, it does look like a few more heads will need to roll.

troopers_wife

Is it not just time to clean house from the top to the bottom? I would like to see every athlete, not just the thugs they seem to recruit for the football team, be required to sign a moral/law behavior contract as part of the scholarship package. They are representing UM and should do so proudly and not with everyone walking on eggshells waiting for the next series of criminal activity. Zero tolerance and an Honor Code. Won't be popular but isn't this mess getting old AND repetitive?

the walter
the walter

Wow. I finally get what they mean by 'culture of rape.' ... My conscience has finally been shocked ... Mr. Foley, you are in a position of public trust. You have engaged a pattern of misfeasance, malfeasance, and nonfeasance. Mr. Foley, you committed a wrongdoing when you used your offices to (attempted to) illegally punish a crime victim and to illegally prevent her from speaking freely. This is malfeasance. You have done a poor job, particularly in crafting a policy designed to chill speech about rape. This is misfeasance. And by failing to take action to pursue student-perpetrators or enforce the law of the land you have engaged in nonfeasance.

flygyrrl33
flygyrrl33

It would be nice to think that the Board of Reagents would actually do something more substantial than a bureaucratic "talking to" but I'm not holding my breath. Cronyism will carry the day.

Alan Johnson

Boy! Just when you thought this saga could get no worse. There is a lot of brain-dead leadership here. Also, thanks Gwen for your fine reporting. Despite a lot of negative and mean comments to your stores, a lot of us know you are just doing your job. Continue to keep us informed. You go, girl!

castigate

I hate to ruin this story for everyone by revealing Ms. Florio's surprise ending. But...........................................Jason Christ did it.

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...and the president wants new leadership, thats why the AD and Coach were fired, but it seems as it has been and continues to be his leadership while placing blame elsewhere!

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