A sportsmen’s group in Salmon, Idaho, is sponsoring a two-day coyote and wolf hunting “derby” geared toward kids, with two separate $1,000 prizes and trophies going to those who kill the largest wolf and the most coyotes. There will also be special awards for youth ages 10-11 and 12-14.

The rules for the Salmon Youth Predator Derby, which is sponsored by the Salmon chapter of Idaho for Wildlife, state that no trapping or spotlights are allowed in the contest and all Idaho Fish and Game rules apply. The derby will be held Dec. 28-29.

“It’s not a murder killing spree,” said Steve Alder, executive director of Idaho for Wildlife. “Hunting is a tool for us to go out and manage wildlife. And what people don’t realize is if you don’t manage wolves, you won’t have any of them. What people don’t understand is they will take the prey base down so low that they’ll wink out. You have to manage them. And this is an opportunity for these kids who don’t get out a lot to learn how to hunt.”

The contest, which costs $20 to register as a two-person team, will also give out awards for largest male coyote, largest female coyote and most female coyotes killed. There will be fur buyers available after the hunt.

Alder said he doesn’t actually expect any wolves to be killed during the hunt.

“One of our outfitters had 40 hunters this year and only saw one wolf,” he said. “And he missed. So the chances of getting a wolf are very low. We basically have these events occasionally and it’s going to be a youth hunting opportunity. We’ll have youth mentors on hand showing them how to hunt. It’s a good opportunity in the winter, instead of big game animals, you have a coyote. It’s a good way to learn how to hunt. It’s also a disease awareness campaign, and we want to educate the public about safety measures in high wolf density areas and how to take precautions.”

The disease Alder was referring to is a tapeworm, echinococcus granulosus, which showed up in Idaho game in 2006. The adult is carried by dogs, wolves, foxes and coyotes. The larval form is usually found in the lungs or liver of a herbivore.

The tapeworm requires two different animal species, a canid and an ungulate like deer, sheep, cattle or elk, to complete its lifecycle, according to the Idaho Fish and Game website. During intensive surveillance between 2006 and 2010, 62 percent of wolves tested were determined to be infected in central Idaho.

Idaho for Wildlife’s website states that the group is “dedicated to the preservation of Idaho’s wildlife.” Their motto is: “To protect Idaho’s hunting and fishing heritage. To fight against all legal and legislative attempts by the animal rights and anti-gun organizations who are attempting to take away our rights and freedoms under the constitution of the United States of America. To hold all government and state agencies who are stewards of our wildlife accountable and ensure that science is used as the primary role for our wildlife management.”

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Christine Gertschen, a self-proclaimed environmental activist in Sun Valley, Idaho, has been sending opinion letters to Idaho newspapers and calling Idaho Fish and Game officials to express her disgust with the derby.

“It’s an unethical practice in my opinion,” she said when reached by phone. “I don’t think it’s right to pile up a pile of carcasses so you can win a prize for sport killings. It gives hunting a bad name. We had one proposed in Twin Falls last winter and it shows such a lack of respect for hunting wildlife. Hunting is fine, but this is not sportsmanlike. It’s repugnant.”

Tom Curet, regional supervisor of the Idaho Fish and Game’s Salmon zone, said the event is perfectly legal.

“Our department is looking at it as no different than say, as a big buck contest,” he said. “As long as people are following the season rules and have a tag, and follow the times of day, it’s perfectly legitimate. As long as people are properly licensed and fulfill reporting requirements for wolves. We don’t support or oppose it, but our perspective is that it is perfectly legitimate.”

Curet said that the state’s wolf quota for the Salmon region is 45, and as of Tuesday only five had been harvested. In the Beaverhead zone, the quota is 10 and only two have been killed, and in the South zone only 15 of the possible 40 have been taken.

“We haven’t hit the harvest limit in each of the past two years,” Curet said. “And we are anticipating maybe just a handful of wolves from this event.”

Registration is taking place at a sporting goods store in Salmon called 93 Outdoor Sports, but a man who answered the phone at the store declined to comment on the event.

Reporter David Erickson can be reached at david.erickson@ravallirepublic.com.

(69) comments

Faxnlogicovremotnlhystria
Faxnlogicovremotnlhystria

The word 'fun' could be replaced with 'satisfaction'. Satisfaction of doing ones part to protect dwindling elk numbers.

Faxnlogicovremotnlhystria
Faxnlogicovremotnlhystria

What endangered species is being hunted? This article is about wolves and coyotes.

whillow
whillow

If you were hunting because you were starving, that is one thing. To senselessly kill for the "fun" of it and to kill an endangered species is reprehensible, irresponsible and idiotic. Is Idaho full of idiots??????

Gurugautam
Gurugautam

It is Very Nice Article...GOOD JOB...i like this Post...

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Eric Mills
Eric Mills

A true "Crime Against Nature." A "youth hunt" over the Christmas Holidays. Baby Jesus must be terribly pleased. Nor is it a "hunt"--it's an unethical and ecologically-unsound slaughter of wildlife, and ALL hunting will suffer as a result.

Mark Twain once wrote, "Is Mankind really fit for anything except to be set up on a street corner as a convenience for dogs?" He must have Idaho in mind.

And an appropriate poem by former U.S. Poet Laureate, William Stafford:

"MEDITATION"
Animals full of light
walk through the forest
toward someone aiming a gun
loaded with darkness.

That's the world: God
holding still
letting it happen again,
and again and again.

Well, GOD may be "holding still," but WE certainly don't have to. Might an emergency court injunction stop this bloodbath?

elkbutt
elkbutt

Really dude? Do normally run around hacking up furballs over a subject that you obviously know nothing about, but "Feel" the need to stuff your liberal nose in other business? Get a life lib.

outsidethecage
outsidethecage

There is a difference between teaching kids to hunt responsibly with respect for wildlife and handing out prizes for who can kill the most animals just because. I think it is clear which method this group from Salmon has chosen and any attempt to prop it up in the name of education or conservation is a thinly veiled rationalization. The goal here is not population control. It is the encouragement of unthinking violence in youths.

I don't want my kids growing up thinking food comes from a grocery store. I want to teach them to grow crops and take them hunting and fishing. What I don't want is for them to believe that lives should be taken for sport or in order to win some award or trophy. I don't want them to take pleasure in causing needless suffering. I don't want them to disregard human safety while handling weapons.

Hunting should be viewed as a privilege, not a right...or a game.

LCHelenajr
LCHelenajr

MFWP needs to cancel the Montana Deer and Elk youth hunts. Sick of seeing wounded elk running around. The two day youth deer hunt also needs to be cancelled. The elk are getting run off into their traditional hiding grounds before the general rifle season even begins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I do wish the Idaho youths luck and hope they all fill their tags. I would also like to see a special Wolf youth hunt in MT. It is time MFWP becomes responsible and protects the deer and elk from irresponsible youth hunters.

outsidethecage
outsidethecage

It would be nice if the MFWP changed their policies...in regards to a lot of things. Even if they do, without good parenting, nothing will really change.

Roger
Roger

Exactly, LCHelenajr.

huntskifish
huntskifish

Excellent logic LC. Turn all the irresponsible youth hunters loose on the wolves instead of the elk. Nobody cares if there are a bunch of wounded wolves running around. Instead of teaching responsibility and ethics to these uneducated kids and their stupid parents, we'll use them as a tool for "wolf management".

DB1784
DB1784

This kind of hunt worked well in Sula with the elk! Oh, and wear orange!

Sukey
Sukey

And hide your dogs, these future serial killers of America will shoot at anything that moves, even the weiner dogs may look like a wolf!

Roger
Roger

There's something seriously wrong with you, Sukey.

BWO
BWO

Conscious means to know. Conscience meas to know better. These hillbillies with guns have neither consciousness nor conscience. May God have mercy on your pitiful souls.

letsroll
letsroll

Who the hell are you to judge anyone?

BWO
BWO

Just reflecting on the obvious here my friend. Civilized people do not behave with such disregard for God's creatures. Yep, I am sitting in judgement, and that may be wrong, but their evil calls for one of conscience to speak out a bit.

letsroll
letsroll

there is only one entity that will judge me, or anyone else "MY FRIEND"

buji
buji

Wow,. what fools both Oldie and Bob Marshall are for taking just certain words out of context,
Yeh the "one wolf",, nothing like taking two words and make your own story! Come on at least try to come across a little more educated. Look at the wolf count, any 6 year old that can read knows that most wolves are not seen from on the ground, Oh and then we have the dum A_ _ stating blood thirsty fools! I am sure our military who have defended our rights want to also be called the blood thirsty fools as they have killed just so another dum A _ _ can babble on. Yeh our "elders" are the idiots? another self educated! When do half educated people start realizing that this "wolf" is not native to Idaho, Montana and Wyoming and they carry deadly diseases. As YZ250 said too many of one animal creates an unhealthy heard. Look at the human animal,,, they breed!, then they share their arm share opinions here!

oldie
oldie

to buji...You are trying to perpetuate the falsehood that there is something different about the wolves that we have now and the wolves that were here long before the European settlers came to Montana. You are just full of it, or you are gullible enough to swallow any lie that is fed to you. But there is no difference. These are the descendants of the same wolves that were here a thousand years ago.

You and I are not native to Montana, or Idaho, or Wyoming either. But we are human, aren't we. You might be Irish, or English, or French. I am much bigger than any of my ancestors were. I'll bet you are too. You are still human. A human is a human, and a wolf is a wolf. Period. Exclamation point! You don't need to know any more. You've got all the truth you need on that subject right now.

As for diseases? Come on man. You carry all kinds of diseases too. But nobody asked to kiss you, or a wolf either. They're probably cleaner than you are anyway, as a matter of fact.

oldie
oldie

Just a sec, let me see if I read this right. Maybe it's more of what I read between the lines that bothers me. I don't know. What do you think?

So according to Steve Alder, the spokesman for the Salmon Youth Predator Derby, "it's not a murder killing spree". He says it really is "to educate the public about safety measures in high wolf density areas". Ah, well sure. Obviously.It's not about slaughtering wolves and coyotes, it's all about educating kids on how to slaughter wolves and coyotes "safely". Sure, big difference. Anyone could see that.

And there is really nothing to worry about anyway because "Alder said he doesn’t actually expect any wolves to be killed during the hunt". And so, "the chances of getting a wolf are very low" To prove his point his further stated that, "One of our outfitters had 40 hunters this year and only saw one wolf"

But here is the part that puzzles me. In an area that has maybe one wolf left, from what he assures us, Mr. Steve Alder considers this area to have a "high wolf density". He says it right here when he describes it as a "high wolf density" area.

One wolf left is a "high wolf density" area? One wolf is too many? So no wolves at all would be the optimum eventuality according to the spokesman for the "sportsmens" group Idaho For Wildlife?

Well, as a spokesman for wildlife, (they don't speak English) I would suggest that with friends like Idaho for Wildlife we really don't need any enemies. Nope, we don't need "friends" like that, do we.

native_of_MT
native_of_MT

If that is what you got from that article then no, you did not read it right. Nowhere does he say that there is only one wolf left in the area, nice spin on your part though. Also never did he say that he wants no wolves at all. What he said is that it is mainly a coyote hunt but that wolves can also be hunted.

But the fact that wolves travel long distances and are very intelligent added with the fact that there will be a large group of people, the chances of anyone getting a wolf are very slim. And yes, that area is a high density area whether you like it or not.

oldie
oldie

to: native_of_MT...Yes. I did read it right. Yes, you are wrong if you think you can spin this as an innocuous educational experience for the youth. It's indoctrination into wolf eradication, that's what it is. Who do you think you're foolin'? Don't try to tell me that I don't know a wolf in sheep's clothing when I see one. I'm a Montana native too, and a gun owner, and as good a shot as you're ever likely to meet. This ain't my first rodeo buddy.

Roger
Roger

No it isn't an "indoctrination into wolf eradication" - as the man said, there's little chance of anyone killing a wolf - in reality it's a coyote hunt. Wolves need large territories, because they are so voracious.

native_of_MT
native_of_MT

Again, this is a coyote hunt where wolves are also allowed to be hunted. I like the passive aggresive internet tough guy tactic though, I'm glad you're a good shot.

Bob Marshall
Bob Marshall

What naive…er, native really means is that to people like him, one wolf is too many.

oldie
oldie

to native_of_MT...Down below you described my comment as using a "passive aggressive tough guy tactic". I am not sure what that means, but it sounds like what we used to call a head fake. Did you feel like you got juked? Maybe it was the screen name "oldie" that did it huh? It makes me sound kind of vulnerable doesn't it. An easy mark, for an opportunistic hunter maybe?

You don't have to tell me what Steve Alder said, or didn't say. I am very well aware that he is very good at parsing his words. Like a politician. He doesn't come right out and say he wants to teach kids to eradicate wolves. He uses euphemisms like "manage", and "harvest". Like a politician, which is what he is. And he is pinning his political hopes on being the champion of other well armed, and well equipped, courageous wolf hunters. Just like himself. Does that make sense to you?

Look him up on the Internet. I did. He's a politician. He is careful to never say what he really thinks. That is why I said that I was "reading between the lines" when I commented. You have to with these guys.

Do you have to read between the lines when I say something to you, do you think? You've got your opinion, I've got mine. Right?

native_of_MT
native_of_MT

No, I don't feel "juked", no idea where that even came from. I don't care about your screen name or your age. I would say that telling me how good of a shot you are is the exact definition of passive aggression.

I'm not defending Steve Adler. I don't know the guy and I have a disdain for all politicians regardless of party or POV. I myself don't even hunt but I don't like it when people anonymously take words out of context for their own benefit, which is exactly what you and Bob Marshall both did here.

Bob Marshall
Bob Marshall

“One of our outfitters had 40 hunters this year and only saw ONE wolf,” he said. “And he missed.
Wow! Yeah, those are huge numbers…I mean number. With an out of control population like that, it's obvious we need to train more youth to be bloodthirsty fools like their elders.
When old men are bloody apes, they like their offspring to grow down to their level.

buji
buji

Bob,
1 out of 40 folks saw a wolf,,, come on now,, Is this how you would do a survey to get a count? Thanks for sharing your intel with the rest of us. Oh bloodthirsty fools!!, is that our military too?

Bob Marshall
Bob Marshall

That's one out of forty hunters out looking for them with a guide. Yes, it's a pretty good impromptu survey. The military? Now, there's a jump for you, but as long as we're on the subject, you might ask all the blown away wedding parties and other civilians in the mid-east what they think about it. All that for a mere trillion plus a year…over a dozen times as much as either China or Russia spends. If you think that has anything to do with defense, you need help.

buji
buji

Now Bob, Do you really think all those young men and women are out to kill? Isnt it great that you are pointing your finger at them, and the military has given you the freedom for you to be the left wing and say what you want.. Was it our money or China's? impromptu survey, hmmm keep showing your intel.. You must be a newbie to the west! or a book smart educator with a masters!! So your one of those folks that think there were no wolves in Yellowstone? Lets don't be the fool and believe that the government does not have agendas for the their self serving needs

rajaju
rajaju

For those that doubt the redness of these people check out the "Idaho for Wildlifes" web page and then talk

Readneck
Readneck

Are they going to use helicopters?

letsroll
letsroll

we can only hope

Readneck
Readneck

The truth comes out!

Adam Rissien
Adam Rissien

This event is not about educating kids and one only has to look at the "Idaho for Wildlife" poster to see the truth:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152078882687889&set=a.211821022888.161873.143039222888&type=1&theater

No mention of kids anywhere on it. However there is a list of businesses which will certainly help me decide where NOT to spend my dollars the next time I'm in Salmon. This event is disgusting and represents a mentality that wiped out wolves in the region to begin with.

WildEarth Guardians is working to protect wolves, click here to find out more:
http://www.wildearthguardians.org/site/PageServer?pagename=stand4wolves#.UrHO1_vWtOo

Roger
Roger

You're just another money-grubbing organization trying to exploit ignoramuses.

Bob Marshall
Bob Marshall

Great organization. I just went there to be exploited.

Shade tree
Shade tree

I have no problems with hunting, per se, but hunting and stalking Wolves is a great challenge if you don't bait them. Get out there and do it like a real hunter......the stalk, no road hunting, is the challenge. I have done it all over the Northwest and Alaska. Shot so many Wolves I can't even remember how many! But! I never harvested a single one. "Shooting" with a camera is just as difficult as a firearm, maybe even harder because to get the "money" shot entails getting close enough for that head shot and the results are so satisfying and I can do it again and again with the same wolves! Killing just for the sake of killing something so beautiful, cunning and elusive just strikes me as "unworthy" of the stalk and hunt.

I can understand a rancher who is sure the wolf is killing his sheep, but, isn't it more the bloodlust that drives most who want to kill them? Must prove you are really manly taking a wolf with a high powered firearm that can't run fast enough or hide well enough!

Decades ago I hunted with a powerful firearm, but the prey were two-legged and they shot back! Two bullets still in me as reminders.

Hunt if your really need the meat to eat or the pelt to keep you warm, not to hang on a "me" wall or brag to your friends how manly you are. But you are what you are and I just feel sorry for you with no malice. Enlist and satiate you lust for killing.....but just remember you will be hunted in return!

native_of_MT
native_of_MT

Finally some good news in the media!

YBChat
YBChat

Gee, let's teach children to hate and kill and they can grow up to be rednecks, too.

jus wundrin
jus wundrin

We already do that with the support of abortion, and the widespread use of extremely violent video games. Dontcha think that it kinda re-enforces that human life is cheap?.......not sure about the redneck part, but I think that has something to do with working hard under the summer sun.

Snowcrest
Snowcrest

It's curious how so many anti-gun and anti-hunting advocates protest the hunting of wolves by saying a hunt will cause the demise of the species, yet we have the hunts and the wolf population seems to be extremely strong.
Just be honest like Christine and admit it, you want to see all hunting and gun ownership banned, and that's why you all vote democrat.

trad man
trad man

I wish Montana FW&P was on the same page this organization is on and MONTANA FOLKS start an organization like Idaho has they are the real science based deal!! To Jazz, prices are at an all time high right now, huge demand for all pelts, from rats to cats, trappers are getting great prices from fur buyers.

Gadfly
Gadfly

Sick: Wolf and coyote killing contest and teaching kids to kill. Primitive throwbacks, something not fully human.

speedbow20
speedbow20

I hope they send you lots of pictures Roger Hewitt.

Gadfly
Gadfly

How much proof does USFWS need to prove that wolves should not be delisted? Wyoming has them classified as varmints in most of the state. Montana's new rules allow ranchers to shoot any wolf they see as "threatening", which means any wolf they see, and will have year around trapping. Idaho is having wolf and coyote contests for cash and has hired a hunter to kill a couple of packs arguing that it is in defense of elk herds. Wisconsin is using dogs. MT-WY-ID-WI are obviously marginalizing this apex predator which is not good ecology for trophic cascade of effects; with hunters (sports killing) and ranchers and these state wildlife agencies having unhealthy effects on ecology. We are rapidly getting back to the 1800's in wolf massacring states. Wolf management--they do not generally need management, should be out of the states' hands. The states mentioned are way too hostile, and controlled by historic hostile elements. They are promoting two myths despite contrary evidence: Wolves do not kill too many elk and their impact on cattle is less than 0.002%. These states are run by rancher and hunter folklore, myths and lies and their ilk in the state wildlife agencies and legislatures, with so far the only exception being OR and somewhat WA. OR is the model wolf management state, allowing the killing of only chronic offenders, not general wolf killing, and requiring that nonlethal management be in place and tried. The throwback (1800’s) wolf massacre states are mismanaging wolves.

Yz250
Yz250

Your right, it is called wolf management. The only problem is, is that you do not like the way we are managing them. If you have abetter idea on how to reduce the numbers than the way we are doing it, I am sure fwp would listen to you, but you have absolutely no idea on how to do it. I'm sure you're going to say they don't need managed, but you're wrong there also. All animals like the deer and elk and the wolf need managed. It is unhealthy to have too many of any of these animals. Evidently, all you environmentalists have a different agenda, you are just using the wolf to further that. The wolf is here to stay, you keep saying that all these states are out to wipe out the wolf. That is not true, the only reason you keep saying that is so that you can get people to send your organization more money!!!!

Sukey
Sukey

You are so right, people just like these sick whack jobs virtually wiped out the wolf in the lower 48 and it took many decades to bring back the population. These are the same ones cheering the kids on as they opened fire on the Sula elk herd.

native_of_MT
native_of_MT

Pretty big assumption about the Sula elk hunt, I live in Sula and don't know a single person that supports what hapened there. But I guess liberals don't need facts, they just present opinions as if they were fact and their fellow liberals believe them.

amortdal
amortdal

Why does it happen every year there then? It is a known happening every year yet none of you that live there do anything to try to stop it.

native_of_MT
native_of_MT

amortdal-for some reason it won't let me respond directly to your comment. The fact is that it does not happen every year and people are taking steps to stop what happened. There are idiot poachers all over the place, hopefully the measures that citizens and the FWP are taking now stop that from happening again.

Sukey
Sukey

You live in Sula and "don't know a single person that supports what happened there" or admits to it happening there, but it DID HAPPEN THERE. By the way, I'm a fiscal conservative with strong support for second amendment rights, detest welfare and all the bleeding heart liberal causes that use tax dollars to give their relatives jobs and have spoken out strongly for tea party members. I'm like most people, neither liberal or conservative so you are just WRONG in every regard with your quote.

Snowcrest
Snowcrest

Sukey, You voted for Barack Hussein Obama so you most certainly are not a fiscal conservative,or anti welfare, nor are you a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment. You also are a self admitted anti-hunter and have spoken of banning hunting. If you were conservative, you'd have never sold out the country with a vote for the most destructive administration in US history.
Sorry little sister, but you cant have it both ways.

sofaking tired of the GOP
sofaking tired of the GOP

Yeah the DOW setting record highs and corporations making record profits is so destructive. Using a Republican idea for healthcare also terribly destructive. Not a huge Obama fan but were you asleep 2000-2008? Pretty sure tens of thousands died over a whoopsie. Pretty sure that president set the record for presidential signing statements changing bills, used executive privilege 600% more than Obama, used more recess appointments, issued double the amount of executive orders, and had the highest ranking administration member convicted since Iran-Contra. Oh you can pack heat in Glacier and NPs now, definitely destructive:)

elkbutt
elkbutt

Hey libtard, These wolves are imported from Canada and resemble nothing compared to the Timber Wolf. It would be nice if you leftist idiots educated yourselves before blathering your stupidity in public.

jazz
jazz

An event like this has been going on in my home town for years. Only there it is rabbits and coyotes. It helps reduce the numbers of both of these species, which used to be controlled by trappers who sold them to the fur market. Now that furs coats and hats are no longer "politically correct" we need to have another incentive to control the numbers of these animals. Getting our youth involved is Icing on the cake. I just want to say to the organizers of this event "great idea and I hope you get a fantastic turn out!" as for the bunny snuggle group "if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem".

Yz250
Yz250

I like the comment, if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. So true in this case

rajaju
rajaju

I know theres nothing like PBR and guns and alot of men bonding and shooting animals is what I want my kids to learn............

Minuteman
Minuteman

of course you dont. take them to the store and show them how all meat just shows up in a styrofoam and cellophane package, where someone else does the killing ( but shhhh dont tell them that!)

logic
logic

2 days is not enough.

RPT
RPT

That's what I was thinking... Why only two days?

Sukey
Sukey

Sick, sick, sick. No wonder kids are so screwed up today. Thanks, Gretchen Kertschen, for speaking up.

brmoderate
brmoderate

I would bet that we will never read about any of these kids that are participating in this event, unlike those kids who spend all their time in front of a video game screen and then go out and shoot up a school or theater. These kids do know that bullets kill and use that knowledge responsibly.

Sukey
Sukey

Wrong wrong wrong, these kids were CITED because they did not use any "knowledge responsibly" (which they may or may not possess but obviously choose to disregard). As to shooting up schools or theaters or using violent video games it sounds like they get their jollies shooting up herds of elk without regard for hunting rules or human safety. That's about one step away from pretending every animal/human has as much worth as the zombies this generation are fixated on.

jus wundrin
jus wundrin

Wish I were a kid again.

rajaju
rajaju

So do I

Bob Marshall
Bob Marshall

Don't worry, boys; developmentally, you are right there, and I have a feeling it won't get any better for you.

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