WEST GLACIER – A mountain lion caught recently in a wolf foothold trap set on the southwestern boundary of Glacier National Park was turned loose by state wildlife officials, but the National Park Service employee who discovered the animal and reported it to game wardens was caught the following day when he sprang a second trap in the same area.

The seasonal employee discovered the trapped mountain lion Jan. 19 along the Middle Fork of the Flathead River just outside of the park boundary, which is defined by the high-water mark on the north side of the river. The park employee was conducting wildlife research and reported the trapped cougar to Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks officials.

Erik Wenum, an FWP wildlife specialist, responded to the scene near Harrison Creek and darted and released the mountain lion. He also issued a trapping violation to the trapper for exceeding the amount of exposed bait permitted as an attractant. According to the state’s wolf trapping regulations, no trap may be set within 30 feet of an exposed carcass or bait that is visible from above, a measure intended to minimize the number of raptors unintentionally caught in the traps.

FWP Warden Capt. Lee Anderson said the park employee returned to the area with a park ranger the following day and, while attempting to show the ranger where the incident had occurred, accidentally sprung another trap, which caught the bottom of his heel. The employee, who was wearing waders, was not injured.

“He was able to pop his foot out of the trap and it wasn’t a major incident,” Anderson said. “It was in an area right along the boundary of the park where trappers can legally trap.“

Glacier National Park spokeswoman Denise Germann said a National Park Service investigation into the trapping incident is ongoing. She could not comment on the findings of the investigation, but said it will determine whether or not the traps were indeed set outside of park boundaries.

Germann said that while the park recognizes trappers’ legal right to trap along the park boundary, there is a concern for visitor safety.

“Visitor safety is always a concern to us, but we understand and respect that trapping is a legal activity outside of the park boundary,” she said.

Unintentional captures by wolf foothold traps are not unusual, and Anderson said he could think of four instances this wolf trapping season in which mountain lions were caught in the Flathead Valley. It is also not uncommon for bobcats and coyotes to be captured unintentionally in wolf sets, he said.

Recognizing the problem of unintentional captures, FWP adopted an 8-pound trap pan tension requirement this wolf hunting season to minimize non-target captures of smaller carnivores like lynx, which is federally listed under the Endangered Species Act, as well as marten and fisher.

In Montana, wolf trappers are required to report unintentional captures, and the animals are required to be released.

Anderson said wardens typically use a catch-pole or tranquilizer dart to subdue a trapped mountain lion while they assess its overall health and check for foot damage before releasing the animal.

As of Tuesday, hunters had killed 110 wolves in Montana this wolf hunting season while trappers have killed 67, exceeding the number killed last year.

Reporter Tristan Scott can be reached at (406) 531-9745 or at tscott@missoulian.com.

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old farmer

Did they dart and release the warden ?

oldcowgirl

Good one.......Now, that is too funny!!! LOL.....

wallpaper

From the control of nature there is only a small step to the control of people. Why can't people live and let live? How could 1000 wolves cause such fear? When fear is the constant mental filter of a population who under the constant eye of the state are waiting for it to take restrictive or punitive action, then it must be expressed somewhere. This flow is not unlike venting anger inappropriately at others when we are explosively frustrated. In this analysis the wolf is the discharging point. The fear derives from amorphous alienation.

oldcowgirl

"Wallpaper" There is NO Fear out West of Wolves..... It's called over population of predators....Only so much habitat for predators, humans, Livestock growers, and hunters that put wild game in the freezer for winter supply.....(Hard to believe that not all people get meat from the Grocery Store) Don't know where you come from but WE the people that live in rural MONTANA are very adapted to wildlife. We have a tremendous amount of respect for all of them , but too many predators in any given area is not acceptable. Some predators are OK, but Extreme Activists Groups are filing lawsuit after lawsuit to get more donations for their agenda...(hit the donate button) ..Some WOLVES are OK....So, Don't get me wrong.....Its called Balance between Predators and Humans........Like I have said some Wolves are OK.......Mother Nature never balances itself out, its called Boom or Bust......have witnessed it several times in my old life.....

1000 wolves are not causing Fear......Its people like you and others that do not know or understand what its like living with wolves and there negative affect on wildlife and domestic livestock in a given area of MT..... (Predator Pits)

There always has been management on predators in the modern world...,etc....... coyotes, foxes, skunks,weasels,raccoons,black bear, mountain Lions, bobcats and now Wolves......
They will NOT Go Extinct like some want to believe......

Montana is NOT a ZOO, like Yellowstone or Glacier Park..... But there are Ranchers and Farmers that do make a living in Rural MT...... Go visit a Ranch or Farm and learn a little more about where you food comes from..... Just suggesting......You might have a different outlook on things.......Thank You....

gomer13

Trapping is cruel and inhumane!!! Animals suffer when trapped!!! Oh wait, did this article say the lion was released? Did it say the ranger was not injured? Maybe the truth about trapping is that it does little except hold the foot of the animal. Not break, but hold. And then there's the people that claim to be hunters that say trapping is cruel. But surely if they have hunted very much, at some point many of them have accidentaly wounded an animal they either didn't recover, or had to track quite a ways. Shame on those darned trappers...

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gomer13

LIberal doesn't understand sarcasm??

gomer13

That is supposed to say LIBERALS don't understand sarcasm. Not directed at you. As you, clearly have a little common sense about foot hold traps.

RPT

Idaho.... 203
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RPT

As you can see Ms Richard is not well ...Rather then responding to her girlie-man childish name calling repetitive rants or her encouraging others to break the law....It’s far more effective to click on the ‘Report Abuse’ option.
I’ve had several hundred of her post removed by that method... If all of us do it.. The Missoulian can, has and will take action and remove her posts.

sallymander

How many here encouraged breaking the law with the SSS (shoot, shovel and shut up) wolf control program?

Were they reported for breaking the law too?

RPT

Idaho.... 196
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richardr11

The wolves in Montana get UNLIMITED elk and deer steaks. Are you mad? Are you mad that wolves reproduce at a rate of 30-50% each year? This means well over 1000 wolves in Montana will continue putting elk and deer steaks into their bellies. many more elk and deer are being killed than wolves. You mad? hahaha WeWON. :)

Snowcrest

Mad? No, I'm quite the opposite now that we are hunting and trapping them.
Thanks to those like you who tell the real story of how many wolves there are out there I expect we will be hunting them for a long time to come.
The good news is, the younger generation is really getting involved in wolf hunting and trapping. They are honing their skills as we speak and will be the generation who will refine wolf hunting to a level that will certainly keep up with the population growth. Wolf hunting is a fast growing sport and will bring money into the F&W coffers as more and more hunters learn the art of wolf hunting. Thank you Richard for your efforts in bringing the news to all of us. We couldnt have done it without concerned citizens like you.

richardr11

The wolves WILL be hunting elk and deer YEAR ROUND and for a long time to come. You lost this battle. The wolves won as they get UNLIMITED ELK AND DEER HUNTING TAGS that can and will be used daily and all year round. :)

richardr11

haha less and less hunters are coming to Montana. The trapping will NEVER PUT a dent in the wolf population and YOU KNOW IT. You just tell yourselves these things to make yourself feel better, but you know the truth as do I. That is that the wolf population grows 30-50% each and every year. You will never change this and you will never change the fact that wolves eat elk and deer day in and day out and YEAR ROUND. The wolves in Montana will be there for many many years to come and they will continue keeping the elk and deer in check YEAR ROUND. The wolves get UNLIMITED elk and deer hunting tags. This means a lot of elk and deer steaks will be put in the bellies of the wolves. We win. :)

richardr11

You just don't get it. You are living in la la land son. There is 1000 wolves plus in Montana. You ain't putting a dent in the wolf population and YOU KNOW THIS. The wolves are back and they are thriving and they will continue to eat elk and deer YEAR ROUND. Nothing you can do about it. You will just have to sit back while the wolves enjoy their delicious elk and deer steaks YEAR ROUND. :)

gomer13

Richard, Have you ever even seen a deer/elk or wolf in the wild?

richardr11

mONTANA has a wolf population of 1000 plus and idaho is 1500 plus u mad? that means there will be A LOT of elk and deer steaks that WILL be put in the bellies of the wolves. We win. The wolf WILL manage and keep the elk and deer in check FROM HERE ON OUT. :)

gomer13

Richard, please enlighten me about all your experiences in Montana with Wildlife. When was the last time you saw a wild wolf? or elk? What state do you reside in?

Snowcrest

Geez, You purposely wander around a trapper's set and then you get your heel caught in another of his traps? I'm thinking this F&W or parks agent should be put on desk duty for being ill trained to perform their job. Any idiot would know another trap is most likely there and be cautious enough not to trap themselves like a bumbling idiot. This almost looks too manufactured. I mean, are the officials who went to that site really that stupid?

LCHelenajr

this reminds me of the tear flooding story where the man had his dog trapped. This was a fishing access site and the dog should have been on a leash, not allowed to run around. Who is to say a anti trapper wouldnt get a license and set traps in illegal places to give trappers a bad name?

sanity

LCHelenajr-that fishing access had a clearly posted sign that said "DOGS DO NOT HAVE REQUIRED LEASHES" at the time of year this incident occurred. That was proven, the dog owner was not at fault-no leash law required.

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Missoulian, Nov 29, 2012 FWP: Dogs must be on leash at fishing access sites

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http://missoulian.com/lifestyles/recreation/fwp-dogs-must-be-on-leash-at-fishing-sites/article_ff861b56-3a35-11e2-9a67-001a4bcf887a.html

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Sanity. You are dead wrong. I went to view the sign at The Florence Bridge Fishing Access the day after the dog owner that was letting his dog run loose made this claim. The sinage at the site is clear. PETS MUST BE ON A LEASH AT ALL TIMES

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Just because the dogs owner said he enturprated it differently (therefore he was not at fault) doesn't mean it was "proven" as you state. Big difference. Ignorance is not an excuse for breaking the law.

specialagentmulder

Alright. I love the people (and there are many) who insist it's all a conspiracy. Just like the freaks who say the government is behind the Sandy Hook shootings just to generate new gun control policy. Do we really have to read a trapping story every other day? BAN trapping.

Snowcrest

The government was behind the Sandy hook shooting??? Are you serious ??

mt365

Very interesting. Bring wolves into montana, when we always had wolves. people never trapped or hunted wolves for decade's. Now we have another season with more hunting and trapping. Travel to yellowstone park to see a wolf and take pictures. Wolves get used to humans which in turn makes it easy prey for hunters when they leave the park. Debate, Debate Debate. Argue Argue Argue. I liked Montana so much better 30 to 40 years ago when we enjoyed hunting and outdoors without making everything public information

Roger
Roger

You and me both, and probably a lot of others.

RPT

Couldn’t agree more... Montana was a wonderful place to live in and raise a family till those with the Molloy mentality moved in.
They may be able to destroy what was once so great about Montana ... But we’ll still have the memories of what she used to be.

RobertR

mt365

You are so right !! The Missoulian is the only news paper with radical liberal reporters in the entire state. Makes me wonder why everyone calls it ZooTown??
If we didn't have these Internet predators they wouldn't know what to protest.

I love Msrichards comment about wolves eating elk. Little Richard that only means there is wolves around to hunt and "TRAP" that's right.

Kuato

Is this really a big deal? We have had mountain lions stalking people here in Montana.It is not even a news worthy item unless your part of a fascist anti hunting anti trapping group. How many negative comments here are from "foot-stink" members. This isn't New York's central park , go back to Kalifornia .

Wolfscat

Trappers are requred to check their traps every 2 days. The traps we are using have a 3/8 jaw offset and an 8 lb or more trap pan (trigger) weight. These traps do not break legs and usually never cut the trapped animal. Not target animals are set free and so far I have not heard of a non target or target animal being found dead in a trap. Trappers would really like to use snares which are more humane but would instantly kill non target animals. Wolves must be managed and poison was used in the 1800's along with trapping and hunting. If wolf numbers are left unchecked they will obliterate all the wildlife in our forests. Instead of being negative about trappers and trapping you should thank the trapper who again is taking on the task of managing a wildlife disaster that has been brought on by folks that do not understand wildlife management. Canadian wolves were never native to Montana and now are wiping out 100 years of wildlife management by Montana Sportsmen and Trappers. Wolves do not know the meaning of URBAN. Pet owners state wide are finding this out the hard way as they are finding their dismembered pets that were torn apart by wolves. Wolves have killed and injured far more pets in Montana than trappers. The Montana wolf trapping season will be over Feb 28th but let it be noted that ranchers and farmers trap all year to take care of preditors that are killing their livestock. It is the pet owners responsibility to have control of their pets and it is the responsibility of Montanan's to manage their wildlife.

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theorangedog

Richard you are talking like a darn fool. Whats wrong with you man?

Roger
Roger

Actually, she's toned down the name-calling - she used to be much worse.

RPT

dog...Ms richard is sick... very, very sick.

richardr11

tHE WOLVES get UNLIMITED ELK AND DEER STEAKS. Someone seems mad that the wolves will continue to put elk and deer steaks into their bellies day in and day out and year round. You lose. We win. The wolves WILL CONTINUE feasting on elk and deer steaks. :)

theorangedog

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gomer13

Richard, I've asked you before and you won't answer me. WHich makes you look even worse than you probably do in person, What state do you live in? Have you ever seen a wild wolf? How about a Wild elk?

LCHelenajr

Trapping is here to stay. Please follow leash laws as there is always the chance of "collateral" damage. Wolves are very much like the Nazi SS and need to be dealt with.

madtaxpayer

uh, hey, there are no leash laws in national forest, moron. I can take my unleashed dog anywhere I want in the forest as long as it's not a county, state or national park/trail which obviously require leashes.

LCHelenajr

its up to you to keep better track of your dogs. I also have dogs and they are trained to stay by my side. Too many people think it is cool to let their dogs run. Dogs have a much better chance of getting torn apart by Lions, Wolves and Bears than getting caught in a trap. And yes there are actually fishing areas inside of national forests that require leashes and people still let their dogs run around unattended. Only a novice would step in a trap.

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I certainly agree you can take your dog for a walk in the National Forest without a leash if you wish. Just as there are risks driving to and from your outing there are also risks to you and your pets while you are in the forest. A few weeks back when a young man had his dogs killed by wolves while hunting lions many people chimed up and simply stated..."Hey, he had his dogs out there, it's public land, he knew the risks and therefore he was ultimately responsible for his pets deaths" The same goes for all of us who use the National Forests. There are other recreationists, hunters and trappers, snowmobilers and target shooters. This is no secret. Don't be selfish, the forest doesn't belong only to you. Your dog is much less likely to run into trouble while in your immediate control (on a leash) Should you choose to let your pets run free in the forest you are taking a greater risk that they may be harmed in some way or lost. That's not a legal trappers fault, it's your fault and your responsibility to protect your pets and children.

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I have never had an outing ruined because I (or my dog) was stuck in a trap yet I have had a lot of outings ruined or at the very least rudely interupted when aggresive dogs that are running loose come pick a fight with my dog on her leash and I am in charge of being referee until the other dogs owners happen to show up.

madtaxpayer

Just FYI, you should always carry a gun when hiking in the national forest. I do not have problems with wild animals, I have a gun. you mentioned other people using it, yes they do, and guess what? I don't take my dogs out during hunting season, I can hear when people are target shooting and stay away, I do my very best to stay away from other recreationists as I do not like people, the only thing that is not apparent while hiking is HIDDEN traps! That is why they are dangerous! everything else in the woods can be seen or heard, traps cannot. man, does anyone have any common sense in this backwards state? you people are becomming more stupid by the minute here.

RPT

Perhaps a simple solution would be to ban trapping on public land ( for now ) and extend the hunting season into September... Or better yet 24/7... 365 till the target number of wolves is reached.
After all isn’t the real goal here suppose to be some form of aggressive game management?.. If it is then lets get serious about it.

richardr11

not gonna happen son. the wolves WILL CONTINUE eating elk and deer YEAR ROUND. They get UNLIMITED ELK AND DEER tags. You jealous?

RPT

Ms Richard....The topic of discussion here is trapping and game management .. Please try and stay focused or move along... T.I.A.

Kuato

Sounds to me like your the wildlife hater

richardr11

The wolves get to eat as many elk and deer steaks as they want. You jealous?

RPT

mz richard ...Nope... Doesn’t bother me in the least.. Why would it?.. I hunt private land and we can trap and hunt them year round... Must suck to be you.

Just Me Again

PEOPLE! Catch a CLUE! A mountain lion was caught in a foothold trap. It was RELEASED without harm. A human got his boot heal caught in a foothold trap. He was RELEASED and not harmed. If your dog steps in one, yes he will be pretty upset - but he would be RELEASED without harm!!! These foothold traps are not the huge bear traps with huge teeth. They are designed to HOLD a foot of an animal.
I am not a trapper. I have a dog. I have a child. I am not scared to walk with both in the woods.

Sukey

Just Me Again, Catch a CLUE! The only reason the mountain lion was released was because someone else, not the trapper, found it before it died of hunger/thirst/head bashing/chewing its own leg off. And, it doesn't say in the article it was unharmed, it said it was released.

Just Me Again

..."The park employee was conducting wildlife research and reported the trapped cougar to Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks officials. Erik Wenum, an FWP wildlife specialist, responded to the scene near Harrison Creek and darted and released the mountain lion"...

Yep - "someone" else found it, and reported it (correctly) to FWP.

..."Anderson said wardens typically use a catch-pole or tranquilizer dart to subdue a trapped mountain lion while they assess its overall health and check for foot damage before releasing the animal."...

Who released it UNHARMED.

The trapper would also have needed to report the capture to FWP. Trappers don't want to trap other animals. Most are ethical; but like every other type of sportsman (that includes pro-sports, btw) there are UN-ethical ones.

Trapping is a form of controlling these predators. And they are a predator, not a big, fluffy docile dog.

Sukey

Just Me Again, Wrong again. Read the article. It doesn't say FWP released this animal unharmed, it says they dart it and check for overall health and foot damage before releasing an animal. It said nothing about this animals health and/or foot damage. The reason this is coming up is because a month or so ago there was an article about mountain lions losing toes when trapped. Without toes, it makes it difficult for the cat to climb trees and bring down prey. They release them (FWP) even though they have foot damage.

theorangedog

Just Me Again, Maybe you missed the story about the Eagles that were KILLED in yesterday's story. Many times traps do harm the animals in the traps, it just didn't happen THIS time.

Just Me Again

No, I saw the story, and yes it is sad. But we are talking apples to oranges here. They were NOT caught in a foothold trap. It was a snare - and wolf trappers do not use snares.

theorangedog

Just Me, check it out-http://media.portland.indymedia.org/images/2009/11/395514.jpg

theorangedog

Trapping is indiscriminate in the wild life it catches. A trap can not determine the difference between wolf, coyote, mountain lion, your pet dog, or an eagle. All trapping is totally irresponsible, barbaric and inhumane. I am a hunter but trapping is not hunting, this is not sport, it is just a disgusting from of laziness and disrespect for the wild lands and wild life of Montana. It is time for trapping to be 100% banned in Montana.

gatosp

thank you orange dog! Nicely put!

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Kuato

Are you encouraging people to break the law ?

richardr11

it's not breaking the law, it's protecting wildlife, people, and their dogs.

Kuato

Trapping has been going on in Montana for hundreds of years ,and we have had very healthy populations of wildlife. Up until the wolf lovers moved in and insisted on a single dominate species with absolutely no management. If you want to know what is really killing the wildlife , it is a all these elites, and anti hunting ex Kalifornia people moving here and subdividing the land and building their homes on prime wildlife wintering grounds. These attacks on trapping are because these wolf lovers can't stand the fact that wolves are being managed through trapping. And as the numbers come in we are seeing what a valuable wildlife management tool trapping truly is.

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RPT

ms richard...Your comment has been reported... Your time here is limited...Must suck to be you.

sallymander

Not naming names but how many here encouraged breaking the law with the SSS (shoot, shovel and shut up) wolf control program?

Did you report them too?

madtaxpayer

Ignorant state trapping laws bring out the ignorant trappers. I wonder how many teeth this illegal trapper has?? probably 2. Can you hear the banjos???? I can. ignorant backward hillbilly state. Montana is really starting to suck.

walter12

If the leftists within this state want to ban something, and they always seen to want to ban something, this is one thing that should be banned, these GD traps. This is not the 19th century. Hunting legally, with a rifle, alone in the woods, and on foot, can be noble and wonderful, at times. But trapping is despictable.

DoItRight
DoItRight

We have common ground on that one, Walter!

Roger
Roger

Yeah it's dispicable, but wolves are dispicable too.

sallymander

Did mommy scare you with the Little Red Riding Hood story? Perhaps some counseling will help.

madtaxpayer

I AM NOT A LEFTIST! I love my guns and my money! I am a very right leaning independent! but I find it completely lazy and irresponsible to trap. you could trap innocent pets, children and wildlife! If you hunt with a gun/bow (like a REAL man/woman) you will only kill the animals you are hunting for!!! common sense, something this state and trappers seem to be lacking!!!

Kuato

Beware the qualifier statement " I am one of you" no your not.

BWO

Does anyone on the Governor's team read the paper? An executive order to stop the State FWP from trapping is needed asap. Montana is looking like hillbilly nation about now and the cruelty of this ineffective and anachronistic practice must stop now.

lakeguy406

I have said it before. Somebody is going to start trapping trappers. Then see how fun it is.

Roger
Roger

Perhaps you'd discover how much fun it is to be arrested and charged with a crime.

Gadfly

Lions and other critters are being caught in traps meant for wolves. These barbarians should not be trapping wolves or anything at all. Traps are not discriminate, they are cruel, and a threat to not only general wildlife but also the public. I have heard several people express fear about taking their dogs where they were used to taking them. There are so few self-centered and entitled people, the trappers, taking their "right" over people and other sentient beings. Why are they trapping? To get the wolf population or lion population down and to take furs and trophies are the answers they will give, and that they are entitled, it is their right. They call it management and argue that what they do is good for balance, their checkbook I guess. It has obviously gone right wing crazy now and unintended targets are frequently being reported. Many people are no longer feeling safe from traps while trying to enjoy the wilderness.

Roger
Roger

Given the amount of trouble I've had from people's aggressive dogs, I'd say it's good thing that dog owners fear traps - perhaps they will keep their dogs under control.

madtaxpayer

It's too bad we can't set traps for the trappers, now that would be fun!!! oh, don't worry, we'll check on you in a few days. LOL!

Gadfly

Too many traps in the wilderness is obviously the problem. One is too many really. The wilderness should be safe from them for all.

RPT

Rather then responding to Ms Richards girlie-man childish name calling repetitive rants or her encouraging others to break the law....It’s far more effective to click on the ‘Report Abuse’ option.
I’ve had several hundred of her post removed by that method... If all of us do it.. The Missoulian can, has and will take action and remove her posts.

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boo boo da bear

we use the same traps that the Fish and Wildlife Department use...so get use to it or move back to lala land with richerd

Florence gal

the park employee did not "step" in the trap, he merely had his heel caught... it may have had a different outcome if he had stepped in the trap and broken his ankle.
There aren't too many mountain lions but too many people, and too many of us moving into wildlife's habitat.

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"...too many of us moving into wildlife's habitat..." That would include you. Just because you live in a highrise in Los Angeles or a subdivision on the outskirts of Missoula doesn't mean you are not encroaching on what was once prime wildlife habitat. Stepped in a trap and broke his ankle? That's laughable. Is there even a documented case of that ever even happening to a person anywhere? Not that I can find. You are more likely to be injured in a vehicle collision on your way to recreate. Stop the insanity. All of this hype about people being scared to use the woods because you may be injured in a trap is simply nonsense based on your wild imagination. Go ahead, prove me wrong.

Kuato

You have been watching way to many cartoons lady. It really shows that you don't know what your talking about;not a clue.

Jason Maxwell

Florence gal it just shows how uneducated you are about trapping. The only way to set off a trap is to hit the pan.... the pan can only be set off by the heel of a boot or the toe. I "step" on mine and they will not go off, why?.... Because the pan is below the leghold... our feet are two large to "step" in them.

sanity

At least she can spell, Jason.

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flowergirl

That would be illegal. Allowing legal trapping is the right thing to do.

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See people. This is what happens when you step in a trap and it springs........pretty much nothing. No harm done. I know. I stepped in once that was set by biologists conducting a wolf study. I went to investigate an odd smell coming from tree while I was on a hike on a nice winter day and they had set it at base of tree. I was a little embarrassed that I had disturbed their set and figured out how to reset it for them but I'm sure my human scent didn't help matters any. This gentleman even had waders on, which are usually soft flexible rubber with little structural support and he was still unharmed. Although I myself am not a trapper or a hunter allowing the trapping of mountain lions in areas where the population is above objective makes perfect sense to me as long as it can be done with minimal incidental trapping of protected species. The Houndsmen may disagree but they at times they can be a greedy bunch and tend to overlook what makes good sense from modern day management standpoint.

detonate

bittersweet...sit and spin any direction you want...trapping is on it's way out and you know it ;-0

madtaxpayer

Embarrassed???? really?? God help the man who sets a trap in the area of the forest my children and I hike.

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Yup, I was embarrassed it didn't dawn on me it was a set before I walked right up to investigate and stepped in it and sprung the USFWS leghold trap. I'm usually more aware of my surroundings when I am out and about in the woods. What is the big deal with someone setting a trap in the forest? "God help them?" Really? I know two people personally that have been injured by a lighting strike yet I do not know a single person, nor have I ever even heard of anyone being injured in a trappers set of any kind. I don't feel we should be scared of wolves or traps harming us. It's all nonsense.

madtaxpayer

Ummm...isn't there a cat season????? those lazy pathetic trappers can get a dog, tree the lion and shoot it. oh, but if they do that, they have to walk all day and they'll miss their recliner, beer and nascar.

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